Here is a question that i found on the internet.
According to this link: http://www.luciferia.tv/sixmarydoc.htm Moon practiced 'pikareun', a practice that was done in several Korean cults that sprung from the Jesus Love Church. It was believed that having sex with the messiah would bring purification. Chung Hwa Pak wrote the Six Mary's exposing Moon, later saying it was all false before he died. Chung Hwa was an early disciple, and acquired interviews with former early members who admitted to knowing about these practices.
For Moonies, a religion I grew up in, how do you think about that? My parents and some friends acknowledged it as true. Sam Pak, son of Bo Hi Pak, is the son of Moon, and Moon had a son by Myung hee Kim who died in Japan. How can the Messiah, a perfect man, commit sexual sin like this? Should we believe it to be holy despite?
I love God so much, and the DP, but this is strangling my faith.
mansei
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Answer
What is a sin? It is an action, thought or feeling or plan, a desire that is not centered on God, that is not willed by God. Although there are many laws and rules that describe what should be considered as sinful, at the same time one should not be dogmatic about this, because eventually it is the motivation that counts and the question whether something was really wanted by God or not. That means that it is difficult to judge the deeds of Mr. Moon at face value. We don't know exactly what happened and why it happened.
Yet, one result of sin is the emotion of shame, which is to hide the sin. You have now heard about this practice of Moon, but some years ago almost nobody knew about this, also not in the church of Moon. If one would ask about it, the facts were denied. So ask yourself the question why this has been hidden for so long, and in many ways still is. Does this not make one suspicious that something was hidden because it was at least thought to have been wrong?
I have my opinion about what happened there far back in Korea, but won't state it openly on the internet. The answer can only be found in your prayers to God. Ask God and believe in the answers you get. Continue to pray about this until you are clear. Continue to pray even for many years, because you should not live on letting such important questions be unanswered.
Note about the first four comments below, by Christopherwitt
I posted his comments, for now. You may want to read them, have fun!
Interestingly, there is some truth in what he says, but it is truth clouded by confusion.
He seems to know what was Mr. Moon's original mission and also that Mr. Moon failed. But that's no big deal, because it is known by many.
There are some details in his comments that i find interesting. I'm still studying what he says, to discover what motivates and who inspires him.
To followers of Mr. Moon who are reading this, i would say: "Even if you don't agree with such a person, do study what he says and try to understand the meaning. Do not just brush him off because he seems a weirdo to you. He represents a certain spiritual reality. By understanding this spiritual reality, we can learn to control it in a good way."
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That Sun Myung Moon failed in his mission has to do with that one covered secret and deep mystery that is the hidden unconscious accusation John the Baptist had which caused him to misjudge the situation between himself and his Lord in some very telling ways.
ReplyDeleteIt is this same exact error Rev. Moon himself consciously now believes; and which is why he never reached the Seal of Elijah; just like John never did: which is why he did not one miracle; and the Lamb and his followers did many. This alone is proof John reached not the "spirit and power of Elijah" as he would have been like Aaron before Jesus as Moses it he had. John the Beloved thus reached the position in his love of Jesus that John the Baptist was supposed to have in his mission; which my Father's servant John told me after my death in 2007 when the Blue Star of the Hopi appeared; Comet Holmes.
The Child of the Resurrection is the Cloud he Comes Upon
It is this tragic accusation by John in his heart that is the error Rev. Moon adopted; so in judging John it was Moon who judged himself; for John secretly and unconsciously believed that Mary had lain with his father Zacharias to produce Jesus; which is a lie; but Sun Myung Moon consciously believes it is the "truth"; which is why he never got to the Seal of the Living God; just as John the Baptist failed to reach it: which is why he could do no miracles; as he had the Spirit but not the Power of Elijah; which Lord Jesus reminded him of when John sent two of his discples to Lord Jesus from jail to ask him if he was really "the one".
For this doubt at the end Jesus Christ severely rebuked John through them; though few know why he chose the words he used to convey this rebuke. Here he specifically mentioned the miracles he and his disciples were doing: reminding John he was out of position drastically; but John ended up losing his head long before it was removed from his shoulders; a sign that the seeming "Predestined" Death of Jesus in no way absolved those who abandoned him and then betrayed him at all. John's doubt was what "cut off" the Messiah; for it cut Jesus off from his own messenger; and thus forced Jesus to take the Path to the Cross.
The failure of John the Baptist was seen beforehand by Daniel; but it was really given a heartbreaking forecast by Isaiah in his book; if you read carefully you can see that Isaiah talks of a "New Heaven and a New Earth" precisely where the possibility of Jesus the Christ at his coming and then being unjustly killed would cause. That he would then have to come again. Thus we have the time of the End for us as it was for Him; for when Jesus died God died too: as you would if you lost your son; inside. That is the God who speaks His Curse in the Qur'an; with no partner; and no Son. That one died on Glogotha for us.
Yet this is what can be clearly seen now; where what happened on Golgotha now happens to us again: which is what the Last Judgement is all about; although few if anyone want to hear it; as then we are all like Job; who reached the Last Judgement first: the Witness of the Last Day; for what Job went through we all must now face: and only they with the Patience of Job and the Faith of Jesus will make it; and stand before the Son of Man.
In the Grail the maidens who appear with John's head on the charger of platter show that as denying he was Elijah John lost his head to his old enemy: Jezebel; present in the form of Herodias; who was in no such denial; just as Jesus had said Elijah was present in the person of John in going up against Herodias and Herod John was thus in actuality going up against his old enemies Jezebel and Ahab; but he was sundered from his friend and Saviour; and so died.
That Sun Myung Moon failed in his mission has to do with that one covered secret and deep mystery that is the hidden unconscious accusation John the Baptist had which caused him to misjudge the situation between himself and his Lord in some very telling ways.
ReplyDeleteIt is this same exact error Rev. Moon himself consciously now believes; and which is why he never reached the Seal of Elijah; just like John never did: which is why he did not one miracle; and the Lamb and his followers did many. This alone is proof John reached not the "spirit and power of Elijah" as he would have been like Aaron before Jesus as Moses it he had. John the Beloved thus reached the position in his love of Jesus that John the Baptist was supposed to have in his mission; which my Father's servant John told me after my death in 2007 when the Blue Star of the Hopi appeared; Comet Holmes.
The Child of the Resurrection is the Cloud he Comes Upon
It is this tragic accusation by John in his heart that is the error Rev. Moon adopted; so in judging John it was Moon who judged himself; for John secretly and unconsciously believed that Mary had lain with his father Zacharias to produce Jesus; which is a lie; but Sun Myung Moon consciously believes it is the "truth"; which is why he never got to the Seal of the Living God; just as John the Baptist failed to reach it: which is why he could do no miracles; as he had the Spirit but not the Power of Elijah; which Lord Jesus reminded him of when John sent two of his discples to Lord Jesus from jail to ask him if he was really "the one".
For this doubt at the end Jesus Christ severely rebuked John through them; though few know why he chose the words he used to convey this rebuke. Here he specifically mentioned the miracles he and his disciples were doing: reminding John he was out of position drastically; but John ended up losing his head long before it was removed from his shoulders; a sign that the seeming "Predestined" Death of Jesus in no way absolved those who abandoned him and then betrayed him at all. John's doubt was what "cut off" the Messiah; for it cut Jesus off from his own messenger; and thus forced Jesus to take the Path to the Cross.
The tears of the maidens of the Grail are from the knowledge John who was to have been as "Jonathan" lost his head in his blindness to his best friend and bloodbrother "David" long before it was lifted from his shoulders.
ReplyDeleteLet us look at the truth of what the archangel of the Grail tells us; for John the Baptist was named for Jonathan: as Jesus at his Baptism was David at his Resurrection: but John knew it not; as has no one but the initiates of the Grail and the Elect knew until now; the followers of Rev. Moon included.
For those of the Holy Grail the problems of Rev. Moon and his claims of Zacharias being the father of Jesus are due to his inheriting John's mistake as his own: but this is because Sun Myung Moon is John the Baptist in our Day just as John the Baptist was Elijah the Prophet in the Lamb's Day.
This is the real connection in how in Moon judging John guilty for the Death of Jesus he has condemned himself; but he stilldenies he is John regardless of my instruction just as John denied he was Elijah; thus proving by his continued denial he indeed stands in John's position.
Yet there is still hope; as he Rev. Moon is still alive; even New Hope!
When Rev. Moon was given the mission of completing John's mission he thought he had done so well that he would himself easily and inevitably win the position of the Messiah: for that is seen in the prophecy of the "Faithful and Wise Steward"; which is the one where Rev. Moon is himself described as touching his Destiny or Fate. Rev. Moon has indeed known this prophecy of the Lamb refers to him; but strangely he never advertised the one fact that all would have recognized; yet there is a reason for this.
Rev. Moon's Fate has to do in overcoming the unconscious accusation John had against his own father with Mary; thus he would have reached the Seal of the Living God first instead of me. But as Rev. Moon fell in adopting this same accusation of John consciously as his "secret revelation" to his followers as instructing them "wrongly" a critical error in Rev. Moon's carrying out of the Providence came about; which no one in contemporary Christianity has even been aware of.
But Rev. Moon writes this In the "Divine Principle"; on page 266; line 4; to wit;
ReplyDelete"What then, did Abraham's symbolic sacrifices, namely, the dove, ram and heifer, symbolize? These three symbolic offerings symbolized the whole universe which was created to be perfected through three stages of growth.
First, the dove symbolized the formation stage. Jesus came as the perfection of the providence in the formation stage, which was represented by the doves.
In the next place, the goat or ram symbolizes the growth stage.
The heifer symbolized perfection.
John said; "This explanation appears to be quite consistent with what is written: but it is all entirely wrong; for the creatures in being divided were to put Abraham and his relations with Sarah and Hagar with his two sons in the specific position of Eve when he created Cain and with Eve when he created Abel: and it was these two conceptions which were to be seperated by seperating Eve in the 4 positions of her Fall. This is the correct interpretation of the Altar of Abraham.
The "she-goat" being seperated represented Hagar or "Egypt" divided as of the first fall of Eve with the Serpent removed from the second fall of Eve with Adam. In this "seperation" the fallen physical relationship Hagar had with the man to whom she lost her virginity stood for Eve's fall with the Serpent divided from her restored physical relationship with Abram when he gave her Ishmael."
Thus Hagar represented Eve restored in Paradise by having all her relations with men thus symbolically seperated from the one which she had with Abram.